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	<title>Comments on: When to stop testing?</title>
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		<title>By: Ephram Zerb</title>
		<link>http://f6design.com/journal/2006/11/24/when-to-stop-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Ephram Zerb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 04:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attention to semantic HTML will take you far in the mobile medium with minimal optimization.</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://f6design.com/journal/2006/11/24/when-to-stop-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-123</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ephram Zerb: Great tip about using Opera&#039;s &quot;Small Screen&quot; view to see how well how a site will hold up in Opera Mini. I hadn&#039;t used this feature before, and it looks like a fantastic testing tool. I&#039;ve never specifically optimized a site for mobile devices,  and it&#039;s heartening to see how well Opera Mini will treat even an unoptimized site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ephram Zerb: Great tip about using Opera&#8217;s &#8220;Small Screen&#8221; view to see how well how a site will hold up in Opera Mini. I hadn&#8217;t used this feature before, and it looks like a fantastic testing tool. I&#8217;ve never specifically optimized a site for mobile devices,  and it&#8217;s heartening to see how well Opera Mini will treat even an unoptimized site.</p>
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		<title>By: Ephram Zerb</title>
		<link>http://f6design.com/journal/2006/11/24/when-to-stop-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Ephram Zerb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 07:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with a lot of your recommendations.  However, I wouldn&#039;t consign Opera to the &quot;also-rans&quot; category.  For one, it has exceptional standards support.  As you mention, you aren’t liable to run into any render issues if your site looks good in Firefox.  Its value is not so much the screen support (which is excellent), but the “Small Screen” View mode.  This rendering mode gives you insight on how your website will look like in the Opera Mini browser – a mobile browser with millions of users worldwide.

Even if there is no budget for adding mobile functionality to a website, at the very least, you can get a good idea of how the website will degrade to the mobile medium.  And if there is money in the budget, it serves as a great mobile development environment for CSS / (X)HTML-based sites.

Not to mention, Opera’s tool that allows you to scale the website by a % is a fun and potentially insightful way to assess your design.  (You might need to click on the glasses in the upper right corner of the browser to activate the feature).

I also agree with your take on IE 5.x PC, there are probably very few websites that would benefit from supporting it.  For everyone else, it&#039;s largely a waste of resources.

As for the fight for web standards, I think it&#039;s been won.  Now it&#039;s time to quell the civil wars.  But that&#039;s digressing too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with a lot of your recommendations.  However, I wouldn&#8217;t consign Opera to the &#8220;also-rans&#8221; category.  For one, it has exceptional standards support.  As you mention, you aren’t liable to run into any render issues if your site looks good in Firefox.  Its value is not so much the screen support (which is excellent), but the “Small Screen” View mode.  This rendering mode gives you insight on how your website will look like in the Opera Mini browser – a mobile browser with millions of users worldwide.</p>
<p>Even if there is no budget for adding mobile functionality to a website, at the very least, you can get a good idea of how the website will degrade to the mobile medium.  And if there is money in the budget, it serves as a great mobile development environment for CSS / (X)HTML-based sites.</p>
<p>Not to mention, Opera’s tool that allows you to scale the website by a % is a fun and potentially insightful way to assess your design.  (You might need to click on the glasses in the upper right corner of the browser to activate the feature).</p>
<p>I also agree with your take on IE 5.x PC, there are probably very few websites that would benefit from supporting it.  For everyone else, it&#8217;s largely a waste of resources.</p>
<p>As for the fight for web standards, I think it&#8217;s been won.  Now it&#8217;s time to quell the civil wars.  But that&#8217;s digressing too much.</p>
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