Comments on: Validation: a pragmatic approach http://f6design.com/journal/2007/03/31/validation-a-pragmatic-approach/ Adventures in web and graphic design Tue, 31 Aug 2010 07:09:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jermayn Parker http://f6design.com/journal/2007/03/31/validation-a-pragmatic-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-1390 Jermayn Parker Mon, 02 Apr 2007 03:05:52 +0000 http://f6design.com/journal/2007/03/31/validation-a-pragmatic-approach/#comment-1390 I think that validation should stay as an important element in web design whether it is your website or a clients. I also think that sloppy coding like uppercase elements, empty p tags etc should stay as invalid code. However I reconise and agree that sometimes you get to a point in a design that one little error or two is not that important when it comes to the final product. The way I see it is that validation is the foundation for a website (house) and without it, it will not stand the test of time and fall down... btw great article I think that validation should stay as an important element in web design whether it is your website or a clients. I also think that sloppy coding like uppercase elements, empty p tags etc should stay as invalid code.

However I reconise and agree that sometimes you get to a point in a design that one little error or two is not that important when it comes to the final product.

The way I see it is that validation is the foundation for a website (house) and without it, it will not stand the test of time and fall down…

btw great article

]]> By: Jonathan http://f6design.com/journal/2007/03/31/validation-a-pragmatic-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-1348 Jonathan Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:11:43 +0000 http://f6design.com/journal/2007/03/31/validation-a-pragmatic-approach/#comment-1348 @Ethan: You are correct of course that invalid code has wide reaching repercussions. I look forward to the forthcoming ALA article you mention at the conclusion of your feature, which will investigate ways to tackle validation roadblocks. The pragmatic approach is born of imperfect conditions that I hope the web development community can rally together to overcome. @Emil: Yes, it is true that missing alt attributes have an impact beyond this visible, I'm pleased you brought it up. Both search engine visibility and site accessibility will suffer if non-decorative images lack a meaningful alt attribute. @Ethan: You are correct of course that invalid code has wide reaching repercussions. I look forward to the forthcoming ALA article you mention at the conclusion of your feature, which will investigate ways to tackle validation roadblocks. The pragmatic approach is born of imperfect conditions that I hope the web development community can rally together to overcome.

@Emil: Yes, it is true that missing alt attributes have an impact beyond this visible, I’m pleased you brought it up. Both search engine visibility and site accessibility will suffer if non-decorative images lack a meaningful alt attribute.

]]> By: Emil Stenström http://f6design.com/journal/2007/03/31/validation-a-pragmatic-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-1345 Emil Stenström Sat, 31 Mar 2007 18:11:53 +0000 http://f6design.com/journal/2007/03/31/validation-a-pragmatic-approach/#comment-1345 I agree mostly. "Images missing an alt attribute" is not just a parsing problem but a problem with the content of the site. In my opinion that does affect the rendering of the page, just not to most. Validation is a tool, but lets not miss the issues it's trying to fix. Good article. I agree mostly. “Images missing an alt attribute” is not just a parsing problem but a problem with the content of the site. In my opinion that does affect the rendering of the page, just not to most. Validation is a tool, but lets not miss the issues it’s trying to fix. Good article.

]]> By: Ethan http://f6design.com/journal/2007/03/31/validation-a-pragmatic-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-1338 Ethan Sat, 31 Mar 2007 14:14:55 +0000 http://f6design.com/journal/2007/03/31/validation-a-pragmatic-approach/#comment-1338 <blockquote> There are also technical, budgetary and timeframe requirements to be factored in </blockquote> True. But I think that I was trying to underscore that invalid code can impact <em>all</em> of the vectors you just mentioned, impacting our ability to maintain our sites in a cost-effective and timely manner. So while it's definitely not easy to produce a perfectly valid site (not by a long shot), we need to start investigating the roadblocks that keep us from doing so.

There are also technical, budgetary and timeframe requirements to be factored in

True. But I think that I was trying to underscore that invalid code can impact all of the vectors you just mentioned, impacting our ability to maintain our sites in a cost-effective and timely manner. So while it’s definitely not easy to produce a perfectly valid site (not by a long shot), we need to start investigating the roadblocks that keep us from doing so.

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